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  Forums > Hively Tracker Support > Problems with replayer...

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Problems with replayer...

skope_uprough
Posted: 2008-09-09 20:21:42
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I found some errors in the replayer when using the HVL plugin for XMPlay. For starters, I have an AHX tune with a lead string that sounds completely filtered when playing it with the plugin. I can supply that tune so that you can compare it for yourself. Also the EDx in AHX (the command that's supposed to delay the note for x amount of time before being played) does not seem to work using the plugin. I have not been able to test this in Hivelytracker itself to see if the problem is there also though, but if the replayer is the same then it should be.

Cheers!

/Skope
Xeron
Posted: 2008-09-10 06:34:39
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Does WinAHX display the described behaviour?
AHX forever!
skope_uprough
Posted: 2008-09-10 07:09:37
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Will check on that as soon as I get home from work.
skope_uprough
Posted: 2008-09-10 15:30:14
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Actually I can't find WinAHX anywhere. All links to it I've found are dead. :P
Xeron
Posted: 2008-09-11 13:09:33
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http://amigascne.org/abyss/productions/pc/files/

:-)

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skope_uprough
Posted: 2008-09-12 07:18:42
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Great! Ok, so NOW I'll check on that as soon as I get home from work! ;)
skope_uprough
Posted: 2008-09-12 15:45:52
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WinAHX v1.0 does not have any of these problems, everything plays like it should with it.

Cheers!
Xeron
Posted: 2008-09-12 17:17:48
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OK, so its something i've done. At least that means i have somewhere i can start looking :)

Could you email test files to me at pete _at_ petergordon _dot_ org _dot_ uk

AHX forever!
skope_uprough
Posted: 2008-09-12 17:59:09
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Sent!
Xeron
Posted: 2008-09-13 08:47:51
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Hmm. Could you resend please? I think it got marked as spam and deleted...
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skope_uprough
Posted: 2008-09-15 11:53:44
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All emails i send keeps getting bounced. :(
spotUP
Posted: 2008-09-15 12:29:15
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skickafilen is your friend. send xeron a dl link.

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Xeron
Posted: 2008-09-23 09:11:23
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Well, it seems EDx was always broken because of how i'd implimented the two effects columns.

I've fixed it now, but all replayers and plugins will (once again) need updating :-/

AHX forever!
Xeron
Posted: 2008-09-23 13:46:46
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@skope

Check the address. Did you miss off the final .uk? or did you spell some of it incorrectly?

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Xeron
Posted: 2008-10-22 08:11:14
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Spot sent me the files.

The problem was that you were using the "440" and "480" commands, which toggle the filter modulation, but the module is a "THX\0" module, meaning it was created before there were filters.

AHX strips the upper nibble of the 4xx instrument command when loading the file, turning those commands into 400, but WinAHX (and subsequently Hively) didn't do that. I've fixed that.

AHX forever!
Xeron
Posted: 2008-11-08 22:26:34
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1.6 is out which fixes these bugs.
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spotUP
Posted: 2009-01-10 11:02:45
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OK... i've taken a good listen to the tunes that have sounded buggy in earlier Hively Tracker version in 1.6 now. This one has some strange noisy artifacts:
Crimson Skies by Blonde Lion. It has some plinks and plonks where they shouldn't be.

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spotUP
Posted: 2009-01-10 11:08:03
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in LastNinja2 by DMG there's some strange sounding noise at position 61 and onwards. i haven't compared it to the original ahx but it sounds wrong.

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spotUP
Posted: 2009-01-10 11:13:28
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Chinip 09 by Ini / Old bulls has some strange ploinks in the beginning.

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Xeron
Posted: 2009-01-20 08:07:04
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Crimson Skies: Sounds perfect to me. Can't hear any difference to UADE.

LastNinja2: Well, the noise is there on purpose. The instrument specifically swaps between white noise and sawtooth. Whats interesting is that there are no notes in the instrument PList! Very strange indeed. Anyway, UADE plays it exactly the same.

Chinip 09: Yes, this does sound different. I'll investigate.

Edit: Once again, it appears to be the composer doing something silly. He's using the "9xx" set square relation command on an instrument that doesn't use the squarewave! AHX just ignores it, but it seems to actually do something in HivelyTracker.

Edit 2: OK, it seems that the 9xx command in hivelytracker (and WinAHX) switches to the square waveform even if the instrument in question doesn't use the square waveform. Commenting out "PlantSquare" in "process_stepfx_2" fixes it:


  case 0x9:
    voice->vc_SquarePos    = FXParam >> (5 - voice->vc_W
aveLength);
//    voice->vc_PlantSquare  = 1;
    voice->vc_IgnoreSquare = 1;
    break;


It doesn't seem to break the 9xx command; Afternoon Vogage III by Pink still sounds OK to me, but i need more examples of songs that use 9xx (properly :) to be sure.

Edit 3: If you are using the GBA replayer for comparison, please note that the reduced mixing frequency could introduce artifacts, and you should compare against playback in the tracker using at least 44100Hz (the OS4 build is fixed at 48000Hz).

AHX forever!

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